Interview : Using AdWords to Promote Your Site or For Conversions

Posted by Jason on February 7th, 2006 — in Interviews

Jeremy (aka GuyFromChicago) started using AdWords for his technology solutions company to help find new customers. They were a brand new company with only 3 clients and he saw AdWords LogoAdWords as a way to reach a new audience for a low cost, especially in comparison to the other options (yellow pages for example) that are available to small businesses. Due primarily to their AdWords marketing, their business grew by over 3000% in its first two years.

Due to the success they were able to see in their own business, he started accepting clients and managing their AdWords campaigns. According to Jeremy “It’s been a great experience getting to work with AdWords in a number of different markets and helping other businesses realize incredible growth for a fraction of what they were accustomed to spending for marketing”. In 2005 he was approached with an offer for a full time search marketing position that he couldn’t refuse. Jeremy accepted and has since been serving as Director of Search Marketing for JDV Online. He still does some very limited AdWords campaign management for clients but has devoted the majority of his time and effort to promoting JDV Online Internet properties.

His annual AdWords spending range is 1 million US

What is AdWords? 
AdWords is an advertising system designed by Google that allows anyone with a credit card and an Internet connection to position their business in front of consumers who are looking for the products or services they offer. Advertisers can bid on keywords or phrases and when users search for those keywords or phrases one of the results they see will be the advertiser’s ad.

How Do They Determine Where Your Ad is Placed? 
Ad placement is determined by a number of factors that make up what’s known as a “quality score”. Your keyword’s quality score is the primary factor used in ad placement. Google does not disclose actual quality scores, but, they have disclosed that the quality score is arrived by looking at certain factors. Google sums it up as well as anyone could:

Quality Score is determined by your keyword’s clickthrough rate (CTR), relevance of your ad text, historical keyword performance, the quality of your ad’s landing page, and other relevancy factors.” 

My experience has shown that your keyword’s CTR is the most important element in determining your quality score.

What Do You Believe is the Most Important Aspect or Aspects When Setting Up an AdWords Campaign?
Planning, research and planning. As tempting as it is to just jump right in and start bidding on keywords that’s a sure fire formula for failure. I spend, on average, an hour or more researching and planning every ad group that I create.

Is Fraud an Issue?
Yes, but not to the extent the doom and gloom crowd would lead you to believe. Google has a better handle on click fraud than most people realize and as advertisers are becoming more sophisticated it’s getting easier and easier to track fraudulent clicks. It’s a bigger problem in some markets than in others but smart marketers can take steps to minimize its impact and build it into the equation ahead of time. I often compare the click fraud issue to sending out direct mail via the United State Postal Service….which I did for 10+ years in my previous profession. Even the USPS will admit that a certain % of standard class (bulk) mail will not get delivered, yet it’s the one segment of their business that continues to grow. Why? Because despite a certain percentage of the mail not getting delivered (which I consider the equivalent of click fraud in the CPC world) the advertisers are still seeing a positive ROI. All forms of advertising have some level of risk associated with them – AdWords is no different. When it’s all said and done though it comes down to the bottom line. If people can make money using AdWords a certain level of fraud or deceptive clicks will be tolerated.

How Do You Address It?
Simply put, know what you’re getting into ahead of time, analyze your traffic and traffic patterns and adjust accordingly. 
If the whole concept of click fraud seems too risky for your liking opt out of the content network, or, use site targeted CPM campaigns. There are still a certain percentage of fraudulent clicks that occur in the Google Search Network but it’s miniscule in comparison to the potential for fraud on the content network.

What are Some Common Mistakes that AdWords Advertisers Make? 
I see the following mistakes quite frequently; 
    

  1. Lack of planning and research 
       
  2. Lack of account monitoring. If you are not making consistent improvements to your account based on the data you’ve gathered in the past your competition will crush you. 
       
  3. Not using matching options (especially negative match) to their fullest extent. 
       
  4. Thinking like an “insider” instead of a potential customer. What you would search for to find your product or service is completely irrelevant. All that matters is what the potential customer will be searching for. Think like a customer, not a business owner. 
       
  5. Giving up to quickly. I’ve interacted with many people who cancel campaigns after a small sampling of data. You can’t pick up trends with 100 impressions over 1 hour. If you’re not willing to let a campaign run for a few thousand impressions (at minimum) you probably shouldn’t start it to begin with. 
       
  6. Not testing multiple forms of ad copy. As a rule of thumb I create 3 – 5 ads right away for every new ad group. I build on what works and shut down what doesn’t.

Are There Any Tools Within AdWords That are Especially Useful for Your Campaign?
My Client Center is awesome for managing multiple accounts. Inside of AdWords itself the “Find and Edit Keywords” tool has saved me hours and hours of time. Google has made huge improvements to the keyword tool over the last year as well. I find myself using it considerably more often than have in the past.

Are There Any Tools Outside of AdWords That are Especially Useful for Your Campaign?
Above and beyond everything else make sure you have an analytics package that can play nicely with your AdWords campaigns. You don’t necessarily need to use 3rd party bid management tools but at bare minimum should be able to track your AdWords visitors as a separate segment of your traffic. When creating new campaigns I like to use 3rd party keyword tools (Wordtracker for example) in addition to Google’s keyword tool. Google has really improved their Keyword tool in the last year though and I’ve found myself using 3rd party applications less and less.

If You Only Had $50 a Month for a Budget, How Would You Use it Effectively?
This is another area where keyword research is critical. Don’t immediately go after the primary term in your market – look for lesser searched terms with fewer competitors and work on maximizing the conversions from that traffic.

What is a Good Conversion Rate?
CTR is relative. I’ve managed campaigns with CTR’s ranging from 1% - 60%. Based on CTR, obviously the 60% looks like it would be the winner. That’s not always the case as I’ve seen campaigns with a low CTR outperform (ROI) campaigns with a higher CTR. 
Focus on conversions (ROI). As the business/site owner you have better insights into what you need in terms of conversion rates to make a campaign profitable. There’s no cookie cutter formula or public industry benchmark for measuring what constitutes a successful campaign.

How does AdWords Compare to Other Programs Such as Overture?
There is no comparison in my opinion – AdWords is far away the better of the two systems. Better interface, better prices, better support, better conversions.  I’m more impressed with MSN’s AdCenter (still beta) product than I am with Overture.

Interview with yfs1

Posted by Jason on February 1st, 2006 — in Interviews

I thought I would start off with my first post by putting up an interview I did with Lee Munson some time back. I no longer own Article Depot but I still believe in everything I wrote. I actually enjoyed the interviews Lee wrote so I may actually steal that idea for this blog. In addition to that I will just be posting whatever happens to be on my mind that day. Here is the interview:

yfs1yfs1, Owner and webmaster of ArticleDepot.co.uk - yfs1 is an experienced webmaster and prolific forum poster who has recently started a new article submission site, ArticleDepot.

Within just a few weeks he is receiving hundreds of new articles and also many hundreds of visitors each day. Below are his answers to questions we put to him on June 3rd, 2005.

What is the philosophy of your organisation?
The main goal for Article Depot is to provide a two-pronged resource for webmasters. The first is a place where they can distribute their articles and gain the SEO benefit of the links contained within. The second is to provide them with related and useful content to supplement their site and gain greater exposure. We combine these two things with a “Keep It Simple” philosophy. There are no confusing signups or new code to learn. Most article submissions take less than 20 seconds from start to finish.

What are the organisation’s plans and goals?
Our goal is to become a leading article distribution site by constantly adding new features that benefit the people that make Article Depot what it is, the webmasters.

What do you consider to your site’s strengths and weaknesses?
Our strength is our ability to adapt. We always have features in development. Our biggest one right now is to have an RSS feed which webmasters can put on their site and display articles in their chosen category as they are submitted. This would mean they could have fresh content and wouldn’t even have to come to the site. Our weakness may be our passion for this type of site. We are always trying to see things through webmasters eyes which can be difficult when you have the level of involvement with a site that we do.

What made you decide to run an article site?
I am a webmaster myself and I saw a need for a certain kind of article site. I struggled to find it so at first decided to build one to meet my own needs. It has now taken off with over 2,000 submissions every two weeks and unique visitors increasing 10% a day. I believe in it and feel it’s the future of SEO. Content will always be important and can often help protect you from Algo shifts.

As the owner of ArticleDepot, what do you find to be some of your biggest challenges?
By far the biggest challenge we face is SPAM. With any distribution site, most times you are judged on the value of your site by the quality of the articles. This is why each article is viewed by a human reviewer before being added. This ensures the quality of our database and ensures you are getting the quality you expect when you come to Article Depot.

Do you think that content is still king?
I still believe in Content as King in an overall sense. Most SEO’s these days have taken to the phrase “Links are King, Content Is Queen” but I would disagree. I don’t disagree for a moment that links are essential and important, especially with Google. What I would argue is that if content is used correctly it can excel in places links can’t. The sandbox is a prime example. No matter how many links you manage to get, it is unlikely you will be able to escape the sandbox. However, by using content during this time, you can actually rank for 1000’s of less competitive keywords that aren’t held by the sandbox. Many times those 1000’s together bring in significantly more traffic than the one competitive keyword.

How do you ensure that the quality of your content remains high?
The only way possible which is human intervention. Each article is read and reviewed to be sure it has the quality we expect at Article Depot. Most webmasters have a lot of pride for what is being distributed in their name so for the most part the majority of articles are approved within two hours.

Of all the articles that have been submitted to ArticleDepot, which one sticks out as your favourite?
In general some of my favourite articles are those where people show a passion. Recently we had an article where someone basically meant to vent out their frustration with returning something in a store. What followed was one of the funniest and well written pieces I have seen in a long time. If that person applied that passion to all of their writing, they would probably be quite successful.

What are your tips for writing a good article?
Write on what you know or have a passion for. This comes out in the article and gives it a quality you just can’t fake. An authoritative article is better than a rehash every time.

Are backlinks from your site SEO friendly?
Absolutely. This was a major issue I saw with other articles sites. Most of them either limit the location of the links to areas that do not make sense or pass them through their own site in an effort to stop any benefit going to the webmaster. This goes against the ideals of a world wide web and at Article Depot we are very sensitive about the importance of links from both a SEO perspective and a visitor one.

Why should someone submit their article to your site first?
They should submit an article to us first because of the quickness in which our articles are spidered (Currently between 2-5 days), the SEO friendliness of our outbound links which are all static, and the fact that we have more and more webmasters coming to Article Depot to get content for their sites. Most people submit articles to gain links to their sites.

What, if any, other benefits do you see from posting articles to your site?
Its also about exposure. Many times in peoples’ rush to just get links they forget about the benefit of having control over the content that surrounds those links. Most of our submitters see a signifigant rise in conversions (whether that’s a sale or a signup) because people are more likely to click on a link when it is surrounded by content they are interested in. Footer links will never go away but the real power has always been in above the fold natural links.

Why not submit your article to ArticleDepot today.